Simplicity Landlord not starting

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simplicity21

Discussion Starter · Aug 17, 2012

Hey guys,

I haven't done any searching as I'm completely whooped from trying to get this thing running all day. I ran it out of gas last week. Went to put more gas in it, and pulled the choke out. Started it up, and when I went to push the choke in, it would bogg out/stall. I had to mow my grass w/the choke completely out.
The odd thing is, it ran as if the choke was off. No flooding, no fuel smell, no nothing. Come out to start it again a week later, same thing. I have changed the plugs and fuel filter. It is getting gas to the filter, but I don't think it is going beyond that silver thin box on the top side of the engine cover that has 3 gas lines coming off of it. What is this thing?
I can only guess that the fuel pump has gone bad. I wouldn't have let it run out of gas, but I have no sight glass on this model, and you can't see the level once it gets down past half. Got to get this sight glass.
It's a MY91 or 92 Landlord w/the 16hp Vanguard engine.
I'd rather not get ripped by a small engine repair shop, as I like to troubleshoot and fix things myself. Hope to get some help here soon. Thank you!:help:

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Mark / Ohio

· #2 · Aug 18, 2012

simplicity21 said:
.... It is getting gas to the filter, but I don't think it is going beyond that silver thin box on the top side of the engine cover that has 3 gas lines coming off of it. What is this thing?
I can only guess that the fuel pump has gone bad. ...

Sounds like the fuel pump your looking at. Fuel in & out lines and a third line probably to one of the valve covers for vacuum to operate the pump.

Probably just siphoned some gunk out of the tank when it went dry. You could try to run some cleaner through it. Might end up needing to take the carb apart and clean it. Symptoms are typical of a blockage of one of the jets.

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simplicity21

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 18, 2012

Mark / Ohio said:
Sounds like the fuel pump your looking at. Fuel in & out lines and a third line probably to one of the valve covers for vacuum to operate the pump.

Probably just siphoned some gunk out of the tank when it went dry. You could try to run some cleaner through it. Might end up needing to take the carb apart and clean it. Symptoms are typical of a blockage of one of the jets.

Thanks Mark! Two quick questions for you........Where is the fuel pump located? I found out the thin silver box on the side of the engine cover is the throttle control valve. I know where the carb is, but it looks to be a PITA to remove.......is it? Thanks again.

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simplicity21

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 19, 2012

Mark / Ohio said:
Sounds like the fuel pump your looking at. Fuel in & out lines and a third line probably to one of the valve covers for vacuum to operate the pump.

Probably just siphoned some gunk out of the tank when it went dry. You could try to run some cleaner through it. Might end up needing to take the carb apart and clean it. Symptoms are typical of a blockage of one of the jets.

I found the problem. I took off the fuel line on the farthest flow side of the fuel filter. I blew into the line until I could hear the gas bubbling in the tank. Once I got good flow coming out of the line I attached it back to the throttle control valve and it started right up. I have to clean the tank because it only runs for about 5-10 min. and stalls again, thus repeating the process of removing the line.

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Mark / Ohio

· #5 · Aug 19, 2012

Sounds like you may get lucky an not have to bother the carb. :cool

Might end up though putting a second clean fuel filter on after you get the tank cleaned out.

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