I just thought of something. My grandfather had an old Lawn boy he got off one of his friends. He used it for 5 years after he got it. It recently blew the rings in it. I know its a tecumpseh engine. And is self propelled. Iknow you lawnboy fanatic are proabably saying" well that explains alot" but I am not a big lawnboy knowlegable person. Now he went and bought a Cadilac of the mowers. He is in his mid 70's so I believe he deserves something that he can just pull once and its starts. I think it was a John Deere. Real nice. He's planning on fixing that Lawnboy fixed though. He said that hes waiting on me to come down there and tear it apart. So I guess my freetime from everything is going to the lawnboy.