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Just joined the forum after lurking on this entire site for about a month. I've been using a Honda HR214 for about 25 years. I love the Honda as it has been completely bulletproof, it gets used nearly every weekend and has taken a lot of abuse. But since it's getting long in the tooth I thought it about time to get another mower to take some stress off of it. I got my first Snapper this weekend. It'll be the bagging mower and the Snapper will be the mulcher.

I got lucky, the Snapper has a WTI-125v Robin (originally a 21350p) and was very cheap (couldn't believe the guy hadn't sold it sooner because it was so cheap). He even gave me a full tank of gas, so it was almost like getting it at 20% off given today's gas prices. I'm excited that I got a 2 cycle Robin as I've wanted one for quite some time, but couldn't find any in the area. Pictures will be posted after it's a bit more presentable. It's likely older than my HR214, but the deck was in very good shape and the engine started very easily. Obviously it was re-engined, but don't know when.

Questions:
1. Amsoil Saber at 100:1? Too lean? Am I risking seizing the engine? Since it calls for 45~50:1 mix, 100:1 seems too lean. I want to protect the engine, but at the same time I don't want to have to a major cloud of smoke (too many childhood memories of Dad mixing the oil very rich for his Lawnboys).

2. Can I make the engine compliant? Meaning, can I add the operator shut-down without too much of a hassle? Better to leave it as is?

3. There is no bag chute safety interlock on it. Big deal or not? Frankly since I expect to always mulch with it and never take off the mulch plate, I don't think of it as a big deal.

4. I noticed it appears that there is a K&N airfilter available for it. Is this overkill? Wrong application? Or would anyone recommend it over a paper element?

5. Any other recommendations?

What I've liked in the 24 hours I've owned it:
* Simplicity of construction compared to the HR214. I love that I can go around the deck and the handle with just my hands, a set of ratchets and work on the mower so much more easily than the Honda. Everything is out in the open.
* The drive system is very cool. Simple and straightforward, and despite the age of the deck it pulls like a truck.
* Will eventually change the plastic wheels for steel ones with ball bearings.
 

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Drives,

I saw your missive and decided to throw out some thoughts. First I have an old Snapper that just won't die. The best parts of it are that drive system because it is simple, rugged and parts are everywhere. Complete Snapper project 004 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The Saber oil mix at 100:1 is interesting. Amsoil makes great products but I'd be inclined to write them before going to 100:1 ratio. I went to their site and read up on the ATP oil.....seems like an easy way to simplify many mixes for multiple equipment. Please let us know how your research turms out.

As to the air filter, are the filters of paper hard to locate for the Robin? If not, you might have lots of retrofitting to do, and besides cleanability, there isn't much advantage to K & Ns unless you run a racing engine wide open I'm told.

As to all of the dearth of safety mechanisms, most modern lawn equipment owners would be jealous, leave that alone IMHO. The steel ball bearing wheels weigh a ton, pick the two types up to compare and you may change your mind.

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It's been a long time since you acquired your 2cycle robin snapper...how has it performed for you over the years?
 

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It's been a long time since you acquired your 2cycle robin snapper...how has it performed for you over the years?
Hi, by looks of original posters amount of posts he never returned! You'll find a few like that!
 

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Well shoot, good mower too!
 
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Hey where are you guys finding the Robin 2 stroke motors?? Were they on other mowers?? Do they have a long enough shaft. I am sure Snappers take a longer shaft than other cheap mowers.
 

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Hey where are you guys finding the Robin 2 stroke motors?? Were they on other mowers?? Do they have a long enough shaft. I am sure Snappers take a longer shaft than other cheap mowers.
All of the robin 2 strokes I've acquired have come on the snappers they originally came on. In fact I've only had two, including the one that I currently have. They have been rare to find around here at least and I've never seen one locally just by itself. Have found them on eBay though a few times, engine only. As for the shaft length I can't say how they compare to the cheap mowers, and I should know their exact length but I forget. I think little over 3".
 
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