Ariens Sport zoom steering problem

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kmead

Discussion Starter · Jun 21, 2011

Hi all,
I have an Ariens Sport zoom with a steering problem.
Steers ok for the first hour, then loses its steering ability.
I discovered a stuck idler arm for the hydrostatic belt, which I have freed, and installed a new belt. I also discovered a leaking oil seal on one of the hydrostatic transmissions.

You can see oil on the seal and below it.
I haven't reassembled the mower yet, and I'm wondering if the hydrostatic transmission is the more likely culprit. I can't spend $800 on a replacement if that turns out to be the problem. Any thoughts?
Thanks for any advice!
Kyle

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Brad

· #2 · Jun 21, 2011

Greetings, Kyle.

There are others that are familiar with this type of machine and repair on the forum so I'll let the address your question. Just wanted to say hello.

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Mark / Ohio

· #3 · Jun 22, 2011

kmead said:
.... I'm wondering if the hydrostatic transmission is the more likely culprit. I can't spend $800 on a replacement if that turns out to be the problem. Any thoughts?..

From what I read on the hydros that seems to be one of the signs of failure is loosing drive after they heat up. I suppose you could try fresh oil and purging the air from the system. But if that were the issue you'd think both the drives would be affected.

Is there a separate bypass/bleeder valve on each transmission? Maybe it is not closing tight on the weak side?

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kmead

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 22, 2011

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the reply.
Actually it may be both drives that are affected if I remember correctly.
I would certainly be willing to try fresh oil and purging air from the system. Do you know how that's achieved? I have instructions for the removal of the hydros, but no info on maintaining them.
I don't know if there are separate bypass/bleeder valves or not. I can't see the transmissions too well and I don't have any detailed illustrations for them. I do know there is a hose coming out of the top of each one, which protrudes from the deck and has a plug at the end.
Would you know where I can find detailed illustrations?
Thanks!
Kyle

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Mark / Ohio

· #5 · Jun 23, 2011

With your model and serial number you might be able to find manuals for at the link below:

Ariens Order Owners Manuals

My hands on experience with ZTRs is limited to the Wright Stander my boss owns that I use on occasion and do some service on.

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kmead

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 23, 2011

Thanks Mark. I actually have that manual already, and while it's been very helpful it doesn't have any info on servicing the hydros.
If you have any other ideas I'd like to hear them!

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Mark / Ohio

· #7 · Jun 24, 2011

What's your Ariens model/serial number? Also the model/make of the hydros if you know. I'm willing to do some digging on the net and see if I can come across anything.

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kmead

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 25, 2011

Hi Mark,
Here's everything I know about it:
Ariens Sport Zoom
Model 915031 Serial # 010072

Briggs & Stratton engine
Model 28 H07
Type 0119E1
Code 0312047D
I would certainly appreciate any help!
Kyle

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Mark / Ohio

· #9 · Jun 26, 2011

kmead said:
Hi Mark,
Here's everything I know about it:
Ariens Sport Zoom
Model 915031 Serial # 010072...

Looking at the service manual. Different type of setup then what I had in mind. Instead of a single pump running two hydro motors it is two separate motor/internal pump combination units. So disregard the one statement I made above and have quoted below highlighted in bold print. One unit could be bad and the other one fine.

Mark / Ohio said:
I suppose you could try fresh oil and purging the air from the system. But if that were the issue you'd think both the drives would be affected.

Next regarding this:

Mark / Ohio said:
Is there a separate bypass/bleeder valve on each transmission? Maybe it is not closing tight on the weak side?

The service manual shows a "dump valve" on each unit operated by a single lever so that answers that question as that is the valve I was referring to. Might want to check that when the lever topside is moved to and from the free wheeling position the valve levers on the hydros are both moving with it.

I found an exploded view of the hydro. The plug you mentioned on the tubes also functions as a vent.

http://www.cpdonline.com/modelnumbers/hydrogear/01597800.pdf

Still have not found a servicing manual for 01597800 (#346-2400L)

Looking at another manual (for a different model) it looks like to check the oil level the vent tubes and fittings are removed and you measure how far from the top of the transmission the oil level is setting. That measurement though depends on the model.

Wonder if maybe the one that is leaking is just plain a little low on oil causing the problem?

Here's a service manual for a hydro similar but not the same:

http://www.mymowerparts.com/pdf/Hyd...2600 Hydro Gear Service and Repair Manual.pdf

They have a number of other manuals as well.

"K&T Parts House Lawn Mower Parts and Chain Saw & Trimmer Parts"

Looks like to outright replace just one of the units is $700-800

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kmead

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 27, 2011

Wow, thanks Mark! I'll check out the links in the next few days and let you know what I find.
I appreciate your time and effort!
Take care,
Kyle

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